Did Obama really say it was irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling?

Did Obama really say it was irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling?

Postby thaddeus5 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:51 am

Some Republicans told me that when Bush was president, Obama said it was irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling. Did he really say that? I do not think those republicans can be right since Obama wants to raise the debt ceiling now. Does anybody have a link of him saying that or are those republicans lying? I do not believe Obama could have said previously that it is irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling seeing that he wants to raise it now.
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Did Obama really say it was irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling?

Postby chanan » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:53 am

He might have but if he did it's only because Bush was in the White House. Obama has never seen a spending increase he wasnt for, unless it's for national defense.
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Postby cawrdav » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:01 am

Obama said a lot of crap that wasn't true, and stuff he wouldn't do but now is. Where have you been?
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Postby fergus » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:02 am

Well, if more Americans made higher paychecks, then the government would make more money & the debt will fall. That's basic logic.

However, we are breaking the middle class, so fewer Americans make more money, thus the government makes less off of taxes, thus debt increases. Because they still need to spend money but have none coming in.

Which is the fundamental flaw of the republican fiscal argument.

So when Obama said that, he had a point, there was a time when all of this could have been stopped.

It's also common logic that things change over time. I know Conservatives believe in a stagnate universe, but let's get real.
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Postby jess » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:07 am

Yes, he did. Funny how his past remarks cannot be found on the internet any longer, there were many of his proposed ideas stated on his website during the primaries that simply can no longer be found if they were different than his current actions.
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Postby cartagh86 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:11 am

Three links for you:

url_not_allowed.com/2011/01/05/senator-obama-voted-against-raising-debt-ceiling-in-2006/

url_not_allowed.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/01/gibbs-senator-obama-only-voted-against-raising-debt-ceiling-in-2006-because-he-knew-it-would-pass-an.html

url_not_allowed.nationalreview.com/corner/256288/senator-barack-obama-explaining-his-2006-vote-against-raising-debt-limit-andrew-c-mcca
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Postby terrelle » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:16 am

Watch Fox News, the other outlets won't show it, but it's in Obama's own words as a Senator. He also railed on many things he's doing right now, like the Patriot Act for instances, many many things he said he's totally 180 out on now, totally reversed what he said. No big surprise to those who really know something about him, the man is false clear through. He on an agenda he won't expose because if he did he would lose even 95% of the democrats.
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Postby bohannon47 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:20 am

Yes, he did say that. He also said it was catastraphic to the country and showed a lack of leadership. this happened in 2006
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Postby brennan » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:26 am

"However, we are breaking the middle class, so fewer Americans make more money, thus the government makes less off of taxes, thus debt increases. Because they still need to spend money but have none coming in. "

The rich are taxed at a higher rate than all other americans, which is where your "logic" fails. Given the bulk of the money is taxed at a higher rate, wouldnt there be more tax revenue.

Well apparently there was a time when even obama was right about something.
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Postby nardo » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:30 am

Remember in 2000/2001 when Clinton had managed to balance the budget and even pay off a little of the National Debt and Republicans were screaming that paying off the National Debt was going to destroy the economy.

Hard to believe that was only 10 years ago, ain't it?
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